Episode 61

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11th Dec 2024

The Cost of Being A CISO Part 1: Personal, Professional & Organisational Challenges

Join us for part one of our two-part series examining the world of Chief Information Security Officers. This episode welcomes back Richard Cassidy, Field CISO at Rubrik, and Oliver Rochford, former Gartner analyst and founder of Cyberfuturist. This episode offers insights that will give you insight into what makes security leadership successful - and what can lead to failure.

Through real world experiences and practical examples, we explore where CISOs best fit in modern organisations, proven approaches for communicating risk to boards and how to handle increasing personal accountability under new regulations. Our guests share hard won lessons from building security programmes across different business cultures, revealing what works and what doesn't. We also examine why CISO tenures average just 18-24 months, and identify the changes needed to make the role sustainable.

As cybersecurity becomes a pivotal aspect of business operations, the significance of CISO roles continues to grow - and so do the challenges. From justifying cybersecurity budgets to handling personal accountability for breaches, we take a look at the complexities and evolving duties of today's CISOs. 

For security professionals, this discussion will help you prepare for senior leadership. For current CISOs, you'll gain strategies for navigating common challenges. And for business leaders, you'll learn how to better support and work with your security teams to protect your organisation effectively.


Key Talking Points:

  • The role and responsibilities of modern CISOs - understand how the Chief Information Security Officer position has transformed from a technical IT role into a complex business leadership position that spans multiple organisational functions 

  • Reporting structures and organisational challenges - discover how different reporting relationships (to CEO, CIO, CFO, etc.) impact a CISO's effectiveness and ability to implement security programmes across the business 

  • The personal and professional costs of being a CISO - learn about the realities and challenges that CISOs face, from stress and burnout to reputation management and legal liability, providing valuable insights for those considering or currently in the role

Don't miss out on this deep dive into the cost, both personal and professional, of being a Chief Information Security Officer.


Evolving Role of the CISO: 

“A CISO today is essentially a senior executive that is responsible for designing, implementing, and overseeing any organisation's cybersecurity strategy... But it has significantly evolved from what used to be the old IT security director from simply managing technical security operations to actually acting as a key business partner... balancing risk and compliance and security whilst, and this is the hard part, aligning with organisational goals.”

Richard Cassidy



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In this episode, we covered the following topics:

  • Learn proven approaches for justifying security investments - Discover how to effectively demonstrate the value of preventative security measures and build compelling business cases for cybersecurity budgets 
  • Master the language of business risk - Learn how to translate complex cyber risks into clear financial, operational, reputational and regulatory impacts that resonate with senior leaders 
  • Navigate the new regulatory landscape - Understand how recent regulations like the SEC Cybersecurity Disclosure Rule affect your accountability and what this means for your role 
  • Secure board-level investment - Learn strategies for overcoming common challenges when seeking security funding and how to build persuasive investment cases 
  • Manage professional pressures effectively - Gain practical insights into handling accountability demands whilst avoiding burnout in high pressure security leadership roles 
  • Balance competing demands successfully - Learn from experienced CISOs about managing the 24/7 nature of the role whilst maintaining personal wellbeing 
  • Communicate security risks effectively - Master techniques for explaining complex security concepts in ways business stakeholders truly understand and act upon 
  • Adapt your approach for different organisations - Learn how security attitudes and approaches vary across small, medium and large businesses, and how to adjust your strategy accordingly 
  • Navigate organisational politics successfully - Understand how reporting structures and internal dynamics affect security programmes and learn how to operate effectively within them 
  • Prepare for future challenges - Get ahead of how AI and evolving regulations will reshape the CISO role and what this means for your career development


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Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.


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With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.

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